. >> now, we've got secretary of state john kerry going to kiev tomorrow. he will meet with the new ukrainian government. try to assess the aid needs as other members of the european community are going to be doing, and then the question is going to be are there going to be sanctions implemented? john kerry is scheduled to meet with the russian foreign minister on wednesday. don't know if that meeting is going to take place, and the willingness of the european union which has stronger economic ties to russia than the united states does to go along with economic sanctions remains in doubt. guys? >> yeah, you raise all the key issues, john. let's bring in john herbst, the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. ambassador, good to have you here. >> my pleasure. >> you say it's time for nato to take a stance. why and what do you mean? >> i think it would be very useful if nato were to decide to move additional assets to the east in the baltic states which has ethnic russians there as a way to show moscow that they will defend the alliance and that they will defend